It’s about having a voice…

That All May Freely Serve,
Born in Rochester, NY
A City Now Reeling from the

Death of Daniel Prude

The ravages of racism and refusal to accept another death of a black person at the hands of police has ignited Rochester, NY in protests, demonstrations, more arrests, and unrest that, we pray, will finally lead to justice. At what price and with what sacrifices of those who stand for justice is the question. We all must ask ourselves that question and take whatever actions in support of Black Lives Matter that we can.

From several different media outlets and postings, there is recently released video footage that shows the arrest of Daniel Prude in March. During the arrest, Mr. Prude died from asphyxiation, the result of a “spit hood” being placed over his head, while he lie naked and handcuffed on the cold Rochester street, surrounded by law enforcement.

If you seek out the film, you will see officers seemingly showing little empathy or concern for Mr. Prude and apparently not using appropriate skills for addressing someone in distress. In the city where That All May Freely Serve was founded as a statement of Protest and Justice and Love for the LGBTQ/Queer Community at Downtown United Presbyterian Church, the Downtown Church and all of Rochester are called again into the streets and hearts and lives of our kin – with us – to end these abhorrent tragedies.

There is much that is troubling about this ugly scene and its repetition across this nation. And in a city that has been the spark for abolitionists, civil rights, women’s rights, Queer Rights and more – join me in a prayer that racism has met its match in such a place. And, let the prayer inspire you to action.

For its part, the Downtown Church opened its parking lot on Monday for Spiritus Christi Church to provide a triage space for doctors tending to the injured during the protests. Spiritus Christi is a community of worship that has their home at Downtown Church.

Later that evening, police were involved in blocking the exit from areas of the church by protestors, until the mayor intervened late into the next morning, dispersing the police. As might be expected, Downtown Church did experience some light damage, although I do not know the extent of it. I do know that when a community needs to rise up – Rochester is one of the places that is right for justice; I know, too, that the Downtown Church has a deep commitment to the concerns of its congregation as well as its community and that their participation and partnership is a powerful assist in any time of great turmoil.

Please keep Daniel Prude’s family, others whose names we know too well, the community of Rochester, the folks of Spiritus Christi and all the communities of faith – especially the Rev. Pat Youngdahl and leadership of the Downtown United Presbyterian Church in you prayers and outreach. Wherever you are, let these words ring from church steeples and faith communities shore to shore: “Black Lives Matter”, repeated over and over until all finally say, “Yes. Yes. Oh, my God, Yes.”

With love,
Ray Bagnuolo
That All May Freely Serve
631-827-8611;; September 10, 2020 

There are good reasons to resist…

[From Ray: Like many of you, we publish a weekly newsletter. These are my comments from today, June 2, that I share for any interested. You should know that when I say “we” or refer to “our congregation” – I am speaking of you as well. I know how hard we continue to work for justice and love and an end to this insanity…]

First, let’s get this out of the way. We do not condone violence. I do not condone violence. We are a peaceful loving people. If you are part of this congregation you know that. If you just found us online, we would like you to know that. We do not condone any of the violence that has taken place in the protests over George Floyd’s death or in dealing with the institutionalized, politicized, and personalized racism in this country. Full Stop.

I start with this because multiple conversations about these protests against racism and injustice outside of the congregation have frequently started with the topic of violence, followed by criticism and dismissal of “the cause.” That’s too easy.  It’s what has plagued every religious, civil, and  justice movement in all our history. “Find a way to dismiss the movement!” That’s what eventually led to the crucifixion of Jesus, “He was a trouble-maker. Get rid of him. He’s a thug. Crucify him.” That’s what has led us here now.

A touchstone document for me is The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.’s Letter from a Birmingham Jail. I hope you will find time to reread Dr. King’s letter. In the meantime, here are three excepts that demonstrate today’s need for resistance fifty-seven years after Dr. King it was written:

[1] “…We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. Frankly, I have yet to engage in a direct action campaign that was “well timed” in the view of those who have not suffered unduly from the disease of segregation. For years now I have heard the word ‘Wait!’ It rings in the ear of every Negro with piercing familiarity. This ‘Wait’ has almost always meant ‘Never.’ We must come to see, with one of our distinguished jurists, that ‘justice too long delayed is justice denied.'”

[2] “We have waited for more than 340 years for our constitutional and God given rights. …Perhaps it is easy for those who have never felt the stinging darts of segregation to say, ‘Wait.'”

[3] “. . . I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: ‘I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action’; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a ‘more convenient season.’ Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.”

Our resistance as a congregation continues our long history of justice diligence in directly and courageously standing firm, even when that has made us a target. This time, as in the past, is a time of privilege – the privilege to resist, engage in and support non-violent action in changing the conditions: removing the knee and chains from the neck of the “other”. The actions and wrong-headed beliefs that lead to “torture”, the toxic teachings that have carefully corrupted and hardened the hearts of others – these ignorant instructions and practices have no place anywhere in us or on this planet. They have no place in the hands of power or the powerful who embrace them. When that happens, it is our call, our duty and our privilege to work for change that brings love to others.

There are good reasons for resistance. Very good reasons. Please do what you can.

Along with our actions and prayers for the Floyd Family and the safety of all, we pray:

“For leaders who free us from the jails in which some lock us up; for
leaders who open the cages in which anyone is caged; for
leaders who insist that God-given rights never be legislated away.

“We pray for leaders who oppose those who embrace racism; for
leaders who have the courage to oppose the misuse of power; and for
leaders who stand with the truth-tellers, whistle-blowers and troublemakers and us.
We pray for the end to racism, no matter the cost; and
for those unable to serve our nation in such ways to step down.

“And we pray to deeply know our God-given authority to demand love and justice for all and have the courage and faith to resist whenever we must. Regardless the cost…

With love,

Presbytery of Genesee Valley
That All May Freely Serve, Chaplain and Minister Director
Serving as pastor of Sayville Congregational United Church of Christ Sayville, NY

Provocation: The “Other” Illness

From Sunday Worship, May 31, 2020

Would you?

What would make a congregation apply for and accept Federal PPP assistance for their church or congregation with the intent of applying for forgiveness with the intent of applying also for forgiveness, shortly after receiving the loan? Even if you had a robust or not-so-robust endowment? Even if you needed it? Would you? Would that leave you “beholdin'” if you did?

Presbytery of Genesee Valley
That All May Freely Serve
Currently serving as pastor of Sayville Congregational United Church of Christ Sayville, NY 631-827-8611;

Disinfecting the lies…

What they say is not the problem..

The problem isn’t what they say, it’s that people listen. 

Earlier this week, televangelist Pat Robertson was out there again: “How can God heal our land and forgive the sins when abortion and same-sex marriage are laws and many people are anti-Israel. Doesn’t this prevent healing and forgiveness?” Yes. It does, Mr. Robertson. No, not the content of which you speak, but it is the fact that people listen to what you say that prevents healing and forgiveness.

When you and others say such ridiculous things and people listen and then – reacting out of fear incited with faith – become complicit in spreading harmful teachings and skewed understandings of God’s love – that‘s what prevents healing and spreads violence. You should know this.

Yes, I have to remember (actually never have forgotten) that this is the same televangelist who was out there after 9/11, blaming the attack on America on pretty much the same group of “sinners.“ You were right if you thought this sounded familiar. 

It’s not that Mr. Robertson has a net worth of hundreds of millions of dollars from those who listen to him that troubles me – but that there are enough people listening to make him, by some estimates, a billionaire. That’s a lot of people, neighbors and friends of ours, even, who see some of us as these “sinners” because he and others like him dole out God’s punishment as an expression of God’s love. Wait. What? I know…

And he is not alone in practicing “distribution of fear-incited faith using God“ as a business model. 

It’s this kind of teaching/thinking/actions that may or may not have been behind the person(s) who dropped a book off in my mailbox on Saturday, “Can You Be Christian and Gay.” It was left without a note, when no one was around, in my mailbox at my home, next to my door, where I live. “Who are you? And, what possibly makes you think it is God’s love that directs you to drop off a book based on what you think you know about me in the dead of night out of some sense of being faithful and speaking out for God? For God’s sake, human, knock on the door. Ask if we can talk. Tell me about yourself and I will tell you about me. We can share stories. I will listen. I promise. Will you?“ 

Or the “letter” from “The Corona Virus” that is circulating, explaining how it has been trying to get our attention to change our ways and finally had to arrive in the world with a vengeance…not as a punishment, but to help us change our ways.” Holy Crap, Batman! Batwoman. Bats, All!” 

C’mon! We live in a biolgical, dyanmic, physical world. To say that illness or terrorist attacks are God’s punishment is to totally miss the point…we are here to help each other, love each other no matter what the conditions are – not chastise, threaten, shame, separate, hold up for vilification or invite physical violence toward others. There is a difference…

How can you say that the sun is a gift and then acknowledge the harmful nature of its radiation? Neither the sun nor it’s attributes have anything to do with God’s metrics for our interpretation of God’s blessing or supposed displeasure. 

If only no one listened to you. You would just go away and maybe we could get back to building a “kin-dom on earth” that reflects God’s love, as God is known, rather than a kingdom that attempts to twist hearts and thinking into separating and shaming us.

Yes, the problem isn’t with televangelists or others who will use anything, including this virus, to try and lift themselves up on the backs off those they call sinners and causal for the events of the day – that’s not the problem. The problem is that people listen to them.

Like the idea of using disinfectant to clean the virus out of the body. People listen…and before long, someone desperate enough will try such a desperate thing.

And if you think that’s hyperbole, just look at the disinfectant manufacturers making loud and multiple statements today: “Don’t do this!” 


We have to stop listening to those who should be quiet in the first place. And then, maybe we can get on with healing, loving and directing ourselves toward the stranger and one another.

Maybe that’s the core of Psalm 46:10.

Ray Bagnuolo

April 24, 2020

Presbytery of Genesee Valley
That All May Freely Serve
Currently serving as pastor of Sayville Congregational United Church of Christ Sayville, NY 631-827-8611;



Back to writing as though no one is reading…not that I stopped, just reminding myself that this is not about audiences. I love you all, but it’s not about trying to get you to love me or agree with me. Would be nice, but that can’t be the reason for writing. More because I love you… 🙂

I keep hearing the voice on Easter Sunday morning when John tells us that Jesus turned to the one who had mistaken him for the gardener and says, “Mary.” That moment still blows me away. It’s as if time and the universe+ all stops and a name is called from the depths of all matter, space and time and whatever surrounds it: “Mary.”

I try to hear that each day with my own name, and then the next thing that comes to mind is, “What now! Yikes!” Truth for me is…just bask in that for a moment. Be loved in that for a moment and then add another moment and another. I don’t want to “make” anything of it. Just to know it. And then if I practice that, if I stumble to learn that every time I say someone’s name, I try to say it imagining Jesus were saying it. What would that mean for me?

I’ll tell you, there are some names I can’t yet imagine Jesus saying like that, but that’s why Jesus is Jesus. But if I did that when I could, It probably would mean that I would take an extra moment, even in a global time of pause, an extra moment to see the other as Jesus saw Mary. Or, at least try.

At least try…that would be enough for today in getting started in the right direction.

For me.

Presbytery of Genesee Valley
That All May Freely Serve
Currently serving as pastor of Sayville Congregational United Church of Christ Sayville, NY 631-827-8611;


Mikey & “Arthur”

“Give ear to my words, O God, consider my meditation. 
Hearken to my cry for help, my God, for I may my prayer to you.” Psalm 5

9/11… many will remember exactly where they were. I was driving into the parking lot of Ossining High School, where I taught. A stunningly beautiful day soon to be marred in unimaginable ways. Life was already full and complex. Do you think it is always so? I was teaching, going to seminary at night, in my second unit of CPE at Westchester Medical Center and trying to navigate the world of the PC(USA), under care as an openly gay member of the Queer Community.

When the afternoon finally came; when the kids seeking answers from the adults seeking answers all went home; when it was time to leave and return to a world never to be the same…I didn’t know where to go. Home? Where; what was that?

The Medical Center, a Trauma One, Quaternary Care hospital was on my way. I pulled in and soon found myself with Michael in Pediatric ICU. Mikey was ten or 11. While riding his bicycle, he had been hit by a car at chest level. We almost lost him. Slowly, after two months, he began to heal enough to be responsive, have his intubation removed and placed in a step-down room within the unit. He was loved and cared for by amazing family and professionals; his spirit was inspiring, as was he.

The room had been modified. By the window was Mikey; to his right where another bed would have been, the medical equipment filled the space. There were still two TV’s though, and both were on. The one facing the equipment had the sound turned down. It was broadcasting non-stop coverage of The Towers.

The TV facing Mikey was on the cartoon show “Arthur”, which had totally engaged Mikey. I sat by his bed, and when he saw me, he smiled pointing at the TV. I laughed with him, and  we watched the show.

Soon enough, I glanced over at the other TV. I remember thinking as I prayed for the responders, “You are where you are supposed to be and so am I.” I turned back and watched TV with this young amazing person, as the world senselessly spun out of control. I was doing what I could do. 

During times of such great uncertainty, being present for each other, doing what we can is most important. Trusting and believing in what we know and can do – needs to replace the fear we too easily spins endlessly out of control.  If we all do what we can, change our behavior, care for those we before us, welcoming opportunities to do a bit more when possible, I trust we will make it through. A day at a time, we will we will make it through, knowing that there is still a joy underneath the struggle and that, like God, that joy and hope and love will always be greater than any of our ups and downs.

Thanks Mikey and “Arthur” and to the God that created them and us. My prayers and love with you all.

Presbytery of Genesee Valley
That All May Freely Serve
Currently serving as pastor of Sayville Congregational United Church of Christ Sayville, NY 631-827-8611

Distant Mourning…

A friend from Westchester County in New York called me yesterday. She told me of a neighbor in his 90’s whose wife of many decades had been hospitalized. Because she had contracted COV-19, neither he nor any family could visit her. Within a few days, alone, she succumbed to the illness. It will now be a long time before final arrangements can be made. Her husband lives in loneliness, made worse by being kept from his wife in her final moments and the fear that he may die before he can place her remains to rest. There are thousands, now, facing such losses, with a grieving that has gripped us all. Gripped us: some with compassion some in fear. Only one of those is part of the solution.

In the 1980’s and 1990’s when the AIDS Crisis was ravaging my community, we faced many barriers to visitation of loved ones and friends who had been hospitalized. When they would die, we would often be denied services or burials in many funeral homes, sanctuaries and cemeteries. 

From 1981 – 1989, during the most critical time of the virus’ spread, the president and his administration referred to the illness as the “gay plague.” Eighty-nine thousand, three hundred and forty-three (89,343) people would die of the virus in the United States by the time his term was done. There would be no tests for the virus for more than a year after it was initially reported; the first time he would mention the virus in public was in 1985, addressing whether or not children with AIDS should be allowed to attend school, “I can see both sides of the [the argument]”, he said.

It wasn’t until I began attending a Presbyterian Church in 1994 that I once again started to believe in the potential for organized religion and congregational life to be compassionate and loving without restrictions. I still believe in that potential.

Since then I have learned. Learned that communities of faith respond in different ways. All those ways are not correct or helpful. Denominations may believe they are right in exclusionary or other practices  – but that doesn’t make it so. There is no underestimation, however, of the power a denomination can have to bring the love of God into every situation and condition. No underestimation of the power of compassion and the complex healing that faith communities can bring to those suffering, without judgment of their salvation. And there is no question of the harm communities of faith, institutions, governments and others have done in practicing fear and exclusion; denial and dismissal as a solution. 

This virus, however, has all our attention, mostly. While there are pockets of “this is fake news”, still, about COV-19 (think about that for a minute) – this time around everyone is affected and everyone is paying attention. The human spirit and voice has pushed for responses, overwhelming (mostly) the talking heads. As communities of faith, I believe our role is to support that human spirit and voice with our resources and our voices, affirming what we believe in a way it can be heard. No person; no thing or condition is more powerful than our combined love, compassion and our resplendent, resilient relentless voices and actions to match.

We all have been through things; Lent reminds us that we are not the only ones to have ever struggled in this world. It reminds me, too, that God is not an insurance policy – but an active and daily presence in our lives, a resource to call upon, reminding others of the same. God is always in “invitation mode”, inviting us to call upon this Resource of Life in the expression of our love and compassion, insisting upon it in all the actions we take — while listening deeply, as painful as it may be, to those who mourn and cry from any distance.

In prayer and in action.

Please join in the conversation. How are you? Tell us your stories of hope and love and compassion. Share with us how you cry, how you laugh, what you are doing – so we may do so with you, as well.

You – we – all of us are loved.

Thank God for God.

With love,
Ray Bagnuolo, HR

Presbytery of Genesee Valley
That All May Freely Serve
Currently serving as pastor of Sayville Congregational United Church of Christ Sayville, NY 631-827-8611

Seminary Course: Pastoral Care in Times of Pandemic

No. There is no such course I know of. We’d never get out of school if there was a course on everything we might face as ministers or pastors. Seminary has always been a sort of baptism for what was to follow; at times with little real experience to help guide us.

For me, pastoral care in “regular” times centers around two things: the care of the congregation and a clear communicated sense that fear is not a solution. The spread of this virus calls for even more sensitivity to the ubiquitous fear and anxiety produced by the unknowns of an exponentially replicating pandemic.

“Social distancing” has emerged as the most powerful tool we have at this moment to “flatten the curve” of the spreading virus. Up until a few days ago, I don’t think I had ever heard the term. I did, though, recognize that it represented the opposite of what I usually strive for in congregational life and advocacy for justice and love. More for me to understand and synthesize in keeping those two main concerns in the forefront.

For most everyone who reads this, I am sure that members of your congregation look to you for spiritual leadership and information. I am not a medical doctor, an epidemiologist, a scientist or an academic doing research. However, my influence as a spiritual leader can be every bit as influential and helpful as any of those professions. Still, what to say when the question is:

“Where is God in all this?”

I learned an answer for that after 9/11 when the same question was shouted from great places of pain and despair. “With the injured, the rescuers, those unrecognizable in the buckets of rubble…” my pastor Joe Gilmore said from the pulpit that following Sunday.

Today, God is with those who are or will become ill, families who have lost loved ones, with the doctors and others seeking treatment and cures; with the civic and national leaders – inspiring discoveries; maybe even nudging those more who need to open their eyes and get their acts together. And they all need our prayers.

Most often, we gather when trouble surrounds us; social distancing is causing us to reevaluate just how we do that — but it doesn’t limit the presence of God or pastoral care. It’s just how do we be present? How do we care?

I have no solutions; every situation is different. We all make decisions and lead in ways that reflect the congregations we serve and boards that help to guide us. And, we try things and try again.

Whatever the practices though, staying in communication, whether in person when possible, by phone, or social media seems to be most important. In our congregation, we have done our best to increase our usual calls and contacts with those who live alone. We check in to see if folks need someone to run errands, a ride to the doctor, picking up prescriptions or food; all the which encouraging people who feel sick to seek medical care, stay home and be in touch: call in, stay informed, ask questions…and pray with us.

Everyone, and I mean everyone I know, is talking about this virus. And so communication, support, and pastoral care over the phone or in smaller groups, or whatever works – is what I first try to maintain. We are all learning new ways of communicating and being with.

We know, too, this is not a time to go dark or silent or be absent. And for me, the dinosaur that I am, the sound of one’s voice is the best indicator of how someone is doing and perhaps what they need. Yes, the phone. I know. Still, it means so much to hear the voice of someone calling to say, “Hi. How are you?” And to listen, so folks know most of all they are not alone and they are loved.

I believe God is there, too, in those calls and conversations however we may have them. However we may pray.

With love,
Ray Bagnuolo, HR
Presbytery of Genesee Valley
Currently serving as pastor of Sayville Congregational United Church of Christ Sayville, NY 631-827-8611

Nicodemus missed it, too.

“If you are making predictions about the corona virus, you are wrong.” So said a pundit on one of the financial channels this morning as the markets tried to figure out the impact of the virus in the days and months ahead.

In uncertain, unchartered times predictions are closer to guesses. We just don’t know, no matter how hard we figure. And already too late into these comments, with yours – my prayers go out to all the people who are ill or will become ill; to those who have lost loved ones and friends; and to the doctors, scientists, and academics who are working for treatment, cures and vaccines. In the midst of unknowns, prayer is always a steady and stabilizing practice with real impact. How, I’m not sure – just that it is.

Predictions. Predictions are natural places for us to go when we are trying to prevent or face conditions that challenge our lives. We look for causes and redress to assure control and remedies. I was brought up on a form of “predictions”: if you don’t study…; if you don’t brush your teeth…; you can fill in your own. And some behaviors are very indicative of particular outcomes with high degrees of predictability: “If you smoke cigarettes and other tobacco products, enjoy your “chew”, or vape…”

The predictions, though, about God’s judgment, best left to God – aren’t always left to God. There are still so many who try to predict outcomes for what they don’t understand. One wonders what it is that really makes folks or institutions so quick to judge others, especially if the Other doesn’t live or love exactly as they do or insist they do.

We use terms such as welcoming, affirming, open, big tent and more to express the core nature of our own church, as others do theirs. Even so, we permit those who continue to predict that only dire outcomes will occur in a church that truly welcomes all – to have platforms. Those who insist on “anothen” (born again from above) – not as Jesus meant it, but as compliance with rigid and destructive rules set to assure their own predictable outcomes for eternity. Outcomes based on the exclusion of others whose eternity in hell paves their way to heaven. In a word, “Yikes!”

My opinion is that unless we step aside from projections for future church-life based on what we think will happen; move away from trying to build and preserve the church by accommodating any forms of exclusion; and sprint toward addressing the harms that have been caused by our past behaviors and practices – we will continue to be wrong in both predications and practices, if only because the foundations of our projections are expressly corrupted in unfinished amends. 

It’s some comfort that Nikodemus missed this, too – but it doesn’t make anything better. We, however, still have a chance.

Ray Bagnuolo, Minister of Word and Sacrament
That All May Freely Serve, Chaplain
Validated Ministry of the Presbytery of Genesee Valley
03.6.2020;; 631-827-8611

Currently serving as pastor of
Sayville Congregational United Church of Christ
Sayville, New York

“Gender-ous” God

Long ago, in the middle years of the PC(USA)’s legislative attempt to exclude, (read vilify) Queer people – I remember a friend and leader, Rev Don Stroud, saying that this whole disagreement was really about gender, but we were unready and unable to have that conversation. Ready or not, this is the time. Fortunately, there are many resources within and without the church to bring ourselves and our congregations into the light about gender: identity, fluidity and sacredness of being. If you need help finding these resources, please let me know or ask on this site. And, in as loving a way as I can, I need to say that “if you are in a leadership position in the church and you avoid these conversations you are doing much more harm than you can imagine”. I pray that if you are such a person, you will open your heart and your mind to the Spirit – even if it scares you half to death. We’re really not that scary, at all.

For many decades, the LGBTQ+ community in the PC(USA) and its allies and supporters have educated and changed the church. The work for inclusion in the church has been a selfless and generous act, especially when one considers that most of those who took a leadership position never benefited from their sacrifices. It was always about the church; being the church we were meant to be vs. those who insisted on keeping the church they knew, even if it disfigured who they were theologically. Fear does that. Love changes that. So we keep loving.

As our Trans Community continues these sacred traditions of education and change in our church and community, I often think of Don’s comments and something that I have learned. Something I have come to believe deeply. It is that another word for “God” is “Gender”.

In the midst of coming to know so many wonderful courageous people on their journey of becoming who they are; to love who they love; and to help us learn more about ourselves and one another –  all I see is God’s amazing and mysterious creation, the embodiment of Love and Word (the same thing, really). As I write and preach and meditate on these mysteries of gender and identity, a beauty emerges that gives me another way to know the person before me and a God that I never imagined, because I was never taught to revel in a God of such Wonder.

Finding the courage and prophetic heart to enter more deeply into our shared mystery of God’s creation is a continuance of God’s call. And, an invitation to revel in an amazing and “Gender-ous God”, indeed!

At least I think so…

Ray Bagnuolo, Minister of Word and Sacrament
That All May Freely Serve, Chaplain
Validated Ministry of the Presbytery of Genesee Valley
02.28.2020;; 631-827-8611

Currently serving as pastor of
Sayville Congregational United Church of Christ
Sayville, New York

“Can I call you Ray?”

“My name is Steve, Can I call you Ray?”
“Sure, can I call you Steve?”

So began one of the questions during my presbytery examination to be approved for ordination. It continued…

“So, Ray. If you are gay, how are you going to teach kids in Sunday school?”

It would not be the only time such a question would be asked, sucking the air out of the room.

This many years later, fifteen years later – I still wonder how many folks continue to hold biases against the called LGBTQ community in our denomination. Chances are you know some of them. More likely, you have done something to help in the long process of the PCU(USA) becoming opening and welcoming.

Still, do you know how many openly queer pastors there are installed in the broader church? Out of 9,161 congregations in the PC(USA) as of 2018, what do you think?  Would you be surprised to think that there were less than 100? There are no statistics that I know of that track our community’s progress, nor has there ever been one by the denomination. That, in itself, is interesting and raises serious questions about representation. Anecdotally, I would be surprised if there were more than 50 openly queer installed pastors throughout the entire denomination.

It is one thing to pass legislation, hard fought legislation  – yet it is another to step up as a church and support the integration of ratified changes; witnessing to others still in their own struggles (like the UMC) how they might be helped by our progress.

There really are too few and too quiet voices within the church today, challenging the changes that legislation alone is not enough to give meaning. Word is there are studies afoot, again. 

Word is that we are to love our God and one another; not wait for a study to tell us how we continue to fall behind.

Sure, you can call me Ray. Just don’t ask me or any others like me whether we could be called  to ministry or teach Sunday school, love a congregation or serve faithfully – because we identify as queer. That’s not only a terrible question to ask, it’s a way of thinking that likely explains why so few of us are installed. 

A way of thinking that I hope our denomination is committed to changing. However, we probably shouldn’t pause and wait for that to happen first.

Ray Bagnuolo, Minister of Word and Sacrament
That All May Freely Serve, Chaplain
Validated Ministry of the Presbytery of Genesee Valley
02.21.2020;; 631-827-8611

Currently serving as pastor of
Sayville Congregational United Church of Christ
Sayville, New York

Stroking the tiger’s whiskers…

Remember, I write as though no one is reading… so don’t expect too much from any of this; it’s really just me rambling on…

Twentieth Century Jesuit Priest, celebrated paleontologist and theologian Teilhard de Chardin once accused the Vatican of “stroking the whiskers of the tiger”, careful not to stir anything that would upset the institution and control of the faithful. His writings and forward thinking prevented most of his works from being published until after his death in 1956.

It’s hard to imagine Jesus saying “Here, kitty, kitty…” and it is even more impossible to think of him stroking the whiskers of power or ego of any unjust system, especially one that diminished the promises of God and God’s love for all. Yet, so many institutions of faith founded on Jesus’ teachings have been careful to go too far beyond the whiskers for fear of an over-reaction to their carefully laid plans for expansion, growth and power. Teilhard de Chardin challenged all this and much more. It’s easy to see why a feckless Holy See banished him to China.

Still, Teilhard never lost his faith or his optimism, in spite of it all, even while serving in WWI as a stretcher bearer, face-to-face with the underside “of the beast”, its claws, fangs and all of war that I have never known. (Thank you to all who have served.) Essentially, he never stopped believing that the power of God in humanity would eventually win out over the power of self-serving self-important bloated hubris and ego (that about covers it). I have always appreciated de Chardin’s writings, and especially his prayers. One of my favorites, “Patient Trust” begins like this:

“Above all, trust in the slow work of God.
We are quite naturally impatient in everything
to reach the end without delay.
We should like to skip the intermediate stages.
We are impatient of being on the way
to something unknown, something new.

“…Only God could say what this new spirit
gradually forming within you will be.
Give [God] the benefit of believing
that [God’s] hand is leading you,
and accept the anxiety of feeling yourself
in suspense and incomplete.”

Prayer of Teilhard de Chardin

None of this ever meant that he stopped calling on the Church of Jesus Christ to be the Church of Jesus Christ. It never meant that he put off the needs of the moment for a more convenient time, perhaps one when enough votes for a resolution would be collected to succeed. It never meant that he stepped back and acquiesced to power and dominion, especially when it meant stroking that which needed to be totally disgorged.  His expansive view gathered up his own times, anxious for an acceleration to a future when the embodiment of the Christ in us reached the Cosmic Christ of Word and Logos. It appears that his institution (and maybe some of ours) had forgotten how to nurture that Christ. For the small glimpse of what that might be like and the diluted effort to reach its glory – I am saddened. Still…

I have come to believe that the fullness of who we are created to be is the ultimate goal of any faithful and worthwhile life. A life that is always disturbed by a longing that can only be completed in the final reunion, No wonder we often recognize what Teilhard said about the ongoing nature of the impatience, suspense and incompleteness we feel. That deeply-embedded impatience and longing that resists any call to accept injustice as individuals or in our  institutions. Injustice that marginalizes others. It is an impatience that resists the inability to find a voice in speaking out  in the face of diminishing moral behavior, tolerating silence instead of confrontation as the rail cars rumble on their way to Auschwitz. 

“Who do you say I am,” Jesus asks. Not who did the disciples, historians or contrarian leaders at National Prayer Breakfasts say I am. Who do you, in your time in your day say that I am? Perhaps that is the simple most profound question to be asked next or in any time or assembly in which we gather.

And, until our religious institutions reach beyond those whiskers, it’s hard to see how we will ever get beyond,  “Here, kitty kitty…but not too close.”

Happy Valentine’s Day.

Ray Bagnuolo, Minister of Word and Sacrament
That All May Freely Serve, Chaplain
Validated Ministry of the Presbytery of Genesee Valley
02.14.2020;; 631-827-8611

Currently serving as pastor of
Sayville Congregational United Church of Christ
Sayville, New York

“I don’t need to be ordained.”

It was my last meeting with my Committee on Preparation for Ministry in the Presbytery of Hudson River. Seminary was done; ordination exams completed; supervised ministry; Greek; Hebrew; and my first of four units of CPE. All that was left (at this point!) was to be cleared to seek a call. It was around mid-2003.

I think it was Jack Hoffmeister on the committee who asked me, “What’s different for you now, as you look back on when all this began for you five years ago?” I hadn’t given that question much thought, although I knew the answer by that time: “I realize that I don’t need to be ordained. I just need to follow the path and trust that whatever God has in mind for me, ordination or not, will unfold as it should.” (Shades of Desiderata!)

It was true. I had learned that nothing was certain as a queer person, a gay man, in seeking ordination. I had learned this from others whose stories and personhoods I came to know, folks like Bill Silver, Sandy Brawders, Chris Glaser. There were no assurances for ordination in the midst of strident discrimination by the denomination. The hoped-for outcome of the process, once again, took a back seat to the importance of the process, itself. Not to realize this was to be harmed even greater by the church that had become fitful in its overall treat of its LGBTQ community.

It seems my Presbytery on Preparation for Ministry understood all this, too, some of which we learned together, I am sure – but deeply they understood the Presence, power and freedom inherent in the call process, especially when prophetic. So many of you know this, too, and have been and continue to be faithful and amazing allies!

As it turns out, I would be ordained in 2005, called to serve Palisades Presbyterian Church in Palisades, New York as Interim Pastor. At the time, Interim Ministers agreed not to apply for the permanent position, once the interim work was done. It was part of the Book of Order. Had that been otherwise, I might have still been there; it was that wonderful of a loving congregation. I am so grateful to them; to South Presbyterian Church in Dobbs Ferry (under whose life-changing care I served) and to the Presbytery of Hudson River, and its EP David Prince. Like too few other congregations and Middle Governing Bodies in the PC(USA), they led the way so others could follow, not being held hostage to “waiting for a better time.” (Never understood that one; still don’t.)

Also true is this: The “process” of justice and radical inclusionary hospitality continues today; congregations will still not consider, let alone call, a queer person. Still for every congregation that does—we see God a bit more clearly in one another and ourselves. Now, there’s “evangelism” for you! Well, at least for me. 🙂

So, I write as though no one is reading—but, if you did get this far and your congregation is searching for a pastor, I ask you to join in this continuing process and request that the Pastoral Nominating Committee and your Presbytery’s Committee on Ministry be sure to invite a qualified queer person as a candidate into the search. We are easier to find than you think. You just might find who it is your have been searching for!

I still don’t need to be ordained, by the way, but I am humbled and grateful to be.


Ray Bagnuolo, Minister of Word and Sacrament
That All May Freely Serve, Chaplain
Validated Ministry of the Presbytery of Genesee Valley
02.07.2020;; 631-827-8611

Currently serving as pastor of
Sayville Congregational United Church of Christ
Sayville, New York

If you know, please tell me. With love to my CPM.

“Right matters here.” When I heard Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman say that during the House hearings, I exhaled a breath I didn’t know I was holding. 

“Right matters here.” I repeat it as a mantra. “Right matters here.”

Any voice that says such a thing is always a voice from the wilderness, echoed in return with “What’s right?” “Who’s right?” “What makes you think you’re right?”

I don’t know what makes “you right” or even “me right.” I just know that right matters and I want it to matter here. Where I am; where you are. I want the fuzziness of self-serving rhetoric and unbridled untruths to be arrested. The endless studies and debates to mean something. Not to self-serve in opposition but to serve as we have been called to, bringing the gospel truths and teachings and the way of life that Jesus taught, the Light that he reflected – that Light—into the world through our actions and practices and the way we live – now. Today. Every day. I know, that’s probably a lot to want.

I am sure that there were those on my Committee on Preparation for Ministry who wondered how a queer person, me – a gay person, could be sitting before them. I know there were those on the committee, perhaps all of them, who were concerned about the dangers ahead. (That still gives me pause today as I write this, to think there would be dangers in pursuing a call in the church, whew…) – but they put these aside. In their own way, they said: “Right matters here” and what was right was to help me to discern a call; not judge me but help me, regardless of their wonder about whether I belonged there as a gay man or the dangers I might face. It was all greater, much greater than that.

I had an amazing Committee on Preparation. When I would meet with them, I would feel as though they had created a space in their midst for the Spirit, with an invitation to join them on my journey. I say that, because I realized they were on my journey only toward the end of the time together. They had joined with me, to challenge and support me and in the end, as we finished our time together, to be with me going forward. I was not being cleared for ministry; we were. I still serve with them today, over fifteen years later.

 What is it that changes what is “right” from one group to the next? Is there really an argument about what the Great Commandment calls us to do? Can we proof-text our way to rationalization, covering up our own need for a sense of decency and order that becomes anything but where it really matters?

I don’t know. I really don’t. I just pray for more Committees on Preparation who leave room for the Spirit and join in on the journey with others who are called, not as judges but as Light bearers that trust in God.

It pains me when we debate who’s in and who’s out. What ever made us think we have the right to do such a thing; to mislead, incite fear and damnation to get our way? How could that ever be right?

I don’t know. If you do, please tell me.

With love to my CPM and all like them.

Ray Bagnuolo, Minister of Word and Sacrament
That All May Freely Serve, Chaplain
Validated Ministry of the Presbytery of Genesee Valley
01.31.2020;; 631-827-8611

“Keep your head low and follow the Book of Order!”

That’s the response of my Executive Presbyter (EP) back in the day when I asked.” How do I navigate the ordination process as an openly gay man?”

Well, I knew his admonition wouldn’t work for me. I had already left the Roman Church over being gay and “keeping my head low” (read: being in the closet) – it had nearly killed me. Interestingly, this person considered themselves an ally.

So, I just kept going with the support and encouragements of some amazing folks at South Presbyterian Church in Dobbs Ferry, others in the presbytery and elsewhere. As I finished seminary and Clinical Pastoral Education (CPE), I continued to seek a call. My next EP told me point-blank, “You’ll never get an installed call as pastor in this presbytery. You bring the threat of charges against the congregation and the presbytery. We’re not ready for that.” (Read: you’re too out.) Another ally.


At this point, I had been in business for 20 years, taught in private and public schools for the next 20, and had just finished five years of seminary at night while teaching full-time high school. So, I didn’t discourage easily, mostly because I didn’t know any better. The courage of others in this struggle kept me going. G-6. 0106b loomed, but so did Presbyterians who knew better, among them a group of twelve congregations that went by the name Acts of Conscience, which refused to abide by this Amendment. I stuck with them. Still do. These folks and many more of you are a wonderful, wily, faithful, courageous bunch! Generous, too. In those days and since, you needed to be generous to stay in the struggle knowing what you would be subjected to. You did what you did for the others who would follow more than for yourself. So many of you truly are Rock Stars and Prophets.

Behold! I did get called and ordained to Palisades Presbyterian Church in Palisades, NY as an Interim Pastor, part-time. What a great and loving and strong group of folks, much like South Presbyterian Church in Dobbs Ferry, under whose care I’d had been. What a difference these folks and others like them have made in the lives of so many. It was 2005 and I was 54 years old.

A lot has happened between then and now—a lot. I sought a call in the PC(USA) for more than a decade. I was never installed as a pastor until twelve years later at Sayville Congregational United Church of Christ, where I serve now, in my 4th year as pastor at 68 years old.

I lost count of the rejections I received in the PC(USA) along the way. And for Queer folk who have been through this journey—it’s not an uncommon display of bias (nor is it for women and others). But this is what I know. (Perhaps some of you will write about your experiences.)

Anyway, I kept trying.

In fact, after several weeks of open and transparent conversations with a search committee that had called me, I accepted an invitation to do a candidating sermon for an interim call in the PCUSA – 320 miles North of the Arctic Circle. No kidding. As much as the committee wanted to call me, two days before I was to plan the trip to the “Land of the Midnight Sun” – I got a call.

They asked me if I was celibate. Session wanted to make sure I wasn’t, well…whatever. I explained that that was really an inappropriate question but I understood why they asked. I answered directly. I explained that I was not in a relationship, may never be in a relationship, but that I was not celibate.

A day later I got a phone call, “Thanks, Ray, but we are going to keep looking…”

Well, that was it. I was done. How far would I have to go to get a call? It seems like it was time to get in my kayak and keep going. (I really don’t have kayak; just sayin’.)

Still, I knew better. I knew a call was not a position or a job, necessarily. It was to be who you are so others might know you and the God who loves you and lives in you. Rev. Dr. Janie Spahr, who many of you know, once told me that when we do this work as openly Queer people, we sometimes become the curriculum for others, so they can know us. I thought I was called to Alaska. Turns out the call was to be in the process. Maybe that helped them. I hope so.

It took a while, but I can see how it helped me, too.

And I think that’s the point I would like to share. Perhaps “a call” is really a process and a charge to live into the process, being who we are, open, affirming, courageous, prophetic, generous, transparent and unwilling to hide who it is God has created us to be. How could we serve others if we weren’t who we were?

For me, the process certainly isn’t keep my head low; nor is it to allow others’ fears to chart my path. Besides, I have enough work to do keeping my own fears out of the way.

Ray Bagnuolo, HR
Minister of Word and Sacrament
That All May Freely Serve
01.24.2020;; 631-827-8611

Would you vote for Jesus? 

Jesus for President of the United States…

But first this: 
Evangelicals for Trump! (From the website by the same name.) “Evangelicals for Trump Are Ready To Help Re-Elect President Donald J. Trump in 2020. Join The Movement Today and Ensure Religious Freedoms Are Kept As A Top Priority. Protect Religious Freedom. Vote Trump 2020. Keep America Great. Stand With Trump. Paid for by DONALD J. TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT, INC.

This reelection coalition that was recently introduced by the President at El Rey Jesus Church in Miami – got me thinking. 

First, a disclaimer. I struggle with the idea of Evangelicals, Catholics, Protestants or any broadly identified institutions of faith being for (or against) any political candidate. First, I don’t think there is such a thing as everyone in a denomination or faith tradition of any size being for one candidate. So, the private and public position of institutions of faith being for or against a particular candidate inherently divides that community – or mutes those who might disagree with the position. And, this type of campaigning also divides us on religious/faith grounds from one another, diminishing (I think) the role of faith in our lives together. This co-opting of faith for institutional political gain does not appeal to me; it feels as though it cheapens something very sacred. 

I do believe that my voice/our voice, rooted in faith, has an authority to speak about policy and candidates who might move those policies forward. As a person of faith, my authority for speaking out against or for certain legislation is incumbent upon me. Likewise for congregations that take a position on gun control, human trafficking, abhorrent immigration practices, poverty, exclusion of people who are Queer as full participants in church and society and more. We are supposed to speak out, take positions…I believe.

For me, the motives get more blurry when support for a candidate turns to proselytization, saying things like:  “God called this person; God often calls imperfect people to implement God’s will. This candidate is divinely chosen by God.”  That last part is probably true, but only as true as it is that God has chosen me for the highest secular office in this USA. (Jk)

God always uses us to move God’s will forward. And, by nature, humans are imperfect, if only because we are incomplete until reunited again in God’s Eternal Love. It’s just that it gets icky for me when unacceptable behavior that might be considered uncharitable, illegal or worse – gets lumped in to a benign categorization of the theological imperfection of human nature as an excuse.  (Spoiler Alert: And if it get us what we want – it’s ok.)

So, it brings me back to my question. If God nominated Jesus to be President do you think folks would vote for Jesus? Do you think all these folks seeing a particular candidate as appointed by their Savior would vote for Jesus and all his teachings? Would they really work to turn Matthew 25 into a way of life for a nation and the world?  Do you think folks who had them – would give up the second tunic, the second house, the second car? Would they lend money without interest? Would they allow everyone to sit at their table – as a equally loved by God? Would gated communities be “ungated”? Would they really vote for someone who would call them to practice and live into The Great Commandment, by someone who had with the ultimate authority to do so?

Would they really vote for Jesus as a way of moving beyond our own inherent imperfection, or is it all just a campaign line of an organized few that really doesn’t reflect their true faith authority at all, rather just a parsing of faith to the degree it produces a particular outcome? If so, that is truly very sad.

Would we really vote for Jesus. I don’t know… but it would be something, wouldn’t it?!

Ray Bagnuolo


Can we really live with that?

Watching the Methodist Church go through recent plans to divide over welcoming queer people in the full work and worship of the church reminds a lot of us of our own struggle in the PCUSA. That is bad enough to remember but to remember the root cause of it all is worse. Much worse. According to enough people to split a church, queer people are an aberration and do not belong in their places of worship, unless willing to change to be, well, like them. In other words, “We reject you, because God rejects you.”

It doesn’t matter that a split is proposed to address “the issue” – it matters that we haven’t figured out how to accept others in ways that keep us together, modeling for one another and the world the inclusive love of God. Trust me, I know every argument used to rationalize actions of division; every way that scriptures are twisted to give credibility to those who reject others because they are LGBTQ+. And they are wrong. Whether they agree with that or not, I know it is true. And what they are doing is terribly harmful and dangerous: rejecting others in God’s name has a profound impact on people in enormous ways. The impact of such actions, themselves, should be enough to change hearts and minds.

This is about more than one denomination’s polity or structure, this is about our failure in bringing God’s love to all.

We try, but something stops us from going “too far” in welcoming. The PCUSA offered a minimal apology for those in the gay community “who might have been harmed by the church; that it was never the church’s intention to do so.” That’s hard to write and hard to read.

As institutions do, we and others prove again that without a dislocation of comfort – there is no courage. The PCUSA missed our chance for courage as a denomination to acknowledge the harms we have done to the LGBTQ+ Community; clearly state that we were wrong; and that we are determined to change, even in the face of opposition. We failed to lead.

It this was just a game of institutional chess, who care? However, the impact of religious institutions’ failures in the way our queer community is welcomed; how we accept our prophetic role in bringing that message to the world — that failure means queer kids die, believing they are rejected and worse, unloved by God.

Can we really live with that.?

It seems so… again.  

Ray Bagnuolo, 01.07.20
Ray@nulltamfs.orf 631-827-8611

I hope we know what we are doing…

There are some pretty ruthless, cruel and murderous people in the world. I don’t know why that is so, but it is. When they have power, the extent of their cruelty multiplies, exponentially. Yesterday, one of those people by all accounts was assassinated by the U.S. with drone missiles on the orders of our President and the military he leads. “Just war” and “just actions of war” have always left me morally conflicted. I don’t know the answers. I want the end of state-sponsored terrorism and all its unspeakable results; I want our troops and citizens and security to be protected with swift and carefully considered proactive and reactive responses. I want harm to innocent people never to be acceptable. And, I hope and pray that these actions by our President and the military are the right responses…even though, even though I feel the nauseous unease I’ve known before at the prospects of escalation and unintended consequences of similar actions. I hope we know what we are doing…and I don’t know what else to say.

Ray Bagnuolo, 01.03.20; 631-827-8611

There’s Always Trouble…

He knew, I think, that there was trouble ahead. He had to. He set his face, “steeled it” as one of the translations says, and headed into Jerusalem – whatever else he knew, he knew what he was called to do – and he did it. 

It’s easy to look for easier softer ways of getting somewhere. Safer ways. More comfortable, less disruptive, predictable even popular ways. 

Approval, acclaim applause. Did only he understand the cost of what he was trying to do? It turned out the accolades meant nothing, at least to him. If they did –  he would have chosen a different way — or no way, just stayed home quiet, even if the stones cried out. 

I write like no one is listening and I hope they aren’t sometimes. I really don’t want to piss anyone off; I don’t want to create controversy or be confrontational. I don’t want to judge other’s motives or actions — as much as I sometimes do want to say, “What the…”

I still think that tables need to be overturned, not literally (?) but in a way that makes it clear that what is being served up is not acceptable. 

This is the way I am, and at this moment I am the sum of everything that has gone before in my life, hopefully moving in the spirit with enough awareness to tone down the frustration — but not to zero. 

There is no zero. There’s always trouble. Always frustration. It’s why we are here, I think.

“Things are different. The world is more complex. This is not First Century Palestine,” they say

Still, we read the ancient texts, say the prayers, repeat the traditions, embrace the sacraments (from 2 to 7, depending) — and we keep it far enough in the past for our institutions not to miss opportunities for setting the tables nicely, if exclusively.

That’s why we are here. You, me, us. The non-institutional components that see some of the tables differently.

Good we’re here. Happy New Year.

Thanks for not listening, or at least not getting too ticked off at me.

But, if you must…may it be so.

Ray Bagnuolo, 01.01.20

A world apart, I guess…

As if no one is reading…How many folks spoke about the shooting in the Texas church this weekend or the stabbing and spate of anti-Semitic attacks headlining the news? How many of us prayed for those caught up in the violence…
I hope many of us, for our denomination’s voice continues to be quiet, compartmentalized, silent.
I went to the website again this morning, hoping that maybe this church had the awareness and courage to step into the call for healing, especially since other communities of faith were impacted.
On our website, i did find a new heading (12/30/19) for a Texas Church – “Texas church takes a different approach to worship” promoting the Co-Moderators Book Study: “Neighborhood Church: Transforming Your Congregation into a Powerhouse for Mission.”
Less than 200 miles away from the Shepherd of the Hills Presbyterian Church in Austin, Texas (the church in the focus of the video/book discussion )– the congregation reeling from a shooting that killed people inside worship on Sunday was in shock and mourning. Austin, Tx to White Settlement: 197 miles apart; might as well be a world apart.
It’s not that our voice is “silent” in the somber nature of these moments – which is not good in itself; but our voice chooses to not even recognize in a public way the tragedies and sufferings of our extended family in worship, praising God in different ways, perhaps, but still praising the same God.
Or maybe that’s where I have it wrong….maybe we don’t see others, some others, as family enough to speak out. I don’t know… I’m hoping someone is listening; still I often write as though no one is.

Ray Bagnuolo, 12.30.19
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As if no one is reading…

Keeping TAMFS alive has always been about making sure its voice was always there and real. A funny thing about the voices in our world, they often don’t sound real. I think that’s mostly because we work hard to keep our audience in mind, so we craft things in ways that often make limited sense.

For examples:

  • If you are Donald J. Trump, your craft things to piss people off, that is the people who your base have come to believe they are at odds with.
  • If you are a mainline denomination, like the one I left as a gay man or even the one which ordained me, you craft things nationally to keep “the middle” in mind. That way, you don’t piss anyone off enough that they might want to leave.
  • (Sorry if this is sounding a little pissy.)

And the voice in many of these types of scenarios has no relevant meaning and whatever compassion might trickle in – is more of a literary device than an example of fortitude.

All that to say, my idea here is to write and vblog as though no one is reading. I wouldn’t go so far as to say this will be totally unfiltered going into 2020 (I mean, I think my mom might read this once on a while). Nor do I want to make this another tribal gathering place for partisan barbs that challenge the specific art form “45” has made so effective. I just want to share my voice without too much thought and hopefully hear yours. And since no one is reading… it may just be me for a while, listening to myself. That’s fine.

So I will end and start from here. I truly believe that faith communities have a God-given critical place in the unfolding of it all, in this eschatological continuum we share. That conviction revolves around the center of my heart and will be at the core of all I say, without being concerned about the audience that is not listening.

Should be real.

Ray Bagnuolo 12.28.19

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This is not just the news… It’s a call for a voice…

Almost every day this week there has been a hate crime committed against our Jewish friends in New York. First, my heart aches again for the pain and suffering and loss of these families and communities, heinous crimes committed against them for what they believe, where they come from, who they are.
In times like this and others, we need national prayer, statements of solidarity, expressions of outrage, and determined leaders whose statements precede any I might write.
It is not politics to call for leadership to stop weighing responses and be a “Healer in Chief.”
It is not disrespectful to expect every faith tradition, institutional religion and denomination to be raising their voices and turning their pulpits and webpages into a call for prayer, compassion love and demanding national leadership to speak out and stand with those mourning and wondering, “Are we next?”
Visit your denomination or faith tradition’s website and you may find headings like I did this morning: articulate, safe and absent.
Is it a wonder “relevance” is often a topic of government and religion?
Today, I pray and ask you to do the same; ask to be led in ways you can help; ask for your voice that comes from your depth of outrage and the God of your understanding. Do what you can…
And mourn with those reeling from violence…

Ray Bagnuolo 12.29.19


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